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The Drum & Bass Thread (formally Drum 'n' Bass is dead?)
Posted on: 19.08.2008 by Random X
Every now and than, a musical genres foremost poet or pioneer will come forth claiming the style is dead.

We've already seen it in punk, hip hop, metal, rock and opera already.

Stupidest thing even, that this seems to be some kind of "retro- cycle" that passes along every decade.

With the coming of styles like dubstep amongst others, purists are really keen on claiming that these styles are no derative or subgenre of our beloved DnB.
Better yet, they utter the words "DnB is dead!"

If your own creative impulses can't cope with a style any longer, why claim it is dead in the first place? Couldn't it just evolve into other (sub)styles?
No, kill your idols instead!
There seems to be no better way to start something new, than completely destroy any relations with the past.

How can a genre with high BPM rates be dead, while comparing it to the ever so low BPM rates of the ever so vivid dubstep?
Ofcourse, BPM rates are not a factor in this case, but people listening and enjoying DnB are.
There are still heaps and heaps of bass-heads still jumping their shoes to the sounds of d&b pioneers as Krush, Bukem, Dom & Roland and all others still producing.

Agreed that the old spirit needs to be revived. Still, it's no reason to don the old lass after that much joy she has given us.

Drum and Bass is dead? It seems ever so vibrant as it was in 1996!
Xavier Emanuels
05.01.2009
That sounds like one hell of a soundsystem - your ears must be absolutly minced after that !
Adolf Hit
04.01.2009
Benga was playing after Skream but just appeared on stage and eventually so did a mic!

Skream dropped "Not over yet' that was huge.

I believe I would have to say that was the best set/s I have seen in my life, it was like listening to music for the first time or something.

It was a weird gig, it had rained the evening before so the entire dance floor was 4" of mud, hence you couldnt really move your feet.

Every time they dropped a new bass line rather than the energetic cheer you get from a crowd there was a delayed moan which was a cross between a "wow" and and groan

The bass was spastic, it was actually causing me to loose balance when it dropped, and when you had your eyes shut you got this tripy synysthesia from the bass pushing your eye lids flat and distorting all the stage lighting that was coming through.
Vernice Aclan
03.01.2009
Woot! Never seen Benga Mcing, apparently his sets with Skream are amazing though, those two play well together. Were they supporting each other or did he just turn up?

Saw Caspa and Rusko do a huge set at the Big Chill this year and Skream and Benga were up there dancing around on stage, the Dubstep community is really tightknit and friendly over here
Virginia Ortiz
03.01.2009
i just saw Benga MCing over Skream. does anyone know if this has happened before? or will it ever happen again


PHAT

we get the exclusive
Vernice Aclan
25.12.2008
I wouldn't say drum n bass is dead, or that it will ever die. I believe every music genre in the world evolves and changes with the times. From my perspective as an Old-Skool Junglist, I've seen my favourite genre evolve into Drum n Bass through the 90's. Now everyone back then said Jungle had died and that Drum n Bass had taken its place. Nonsense!

If you listen to DnB tunes, you can clearly hear all the things that have been taken from Jungle and just merged into something new and fresh. The beauty of this is that a lot of the things people love about Drum n Bass can be found in Jungle, which is why it as a genre has never died. Especially now with the slight decline in popularity of DnB, loads of Junglist movements have started up again to my delight!

The same process can be seen within Dubstep, it seems the most popular Dubstep tunes are ones that share the same characteristics to DnB tunes. Which is why you see the likes of Chase n Status and Pendulum delving into the Dubstep arena and gaining mainstream success.

While on the subject of Dubstep, can I just say I'm really disappointed atm with the amount of crap tunes there are about. I've followed it avidly for the past 4 years and seen a very shakey musical progression. I LOVE the concept and tbh the dirtier the better with me ()
But just because it's dirty doesnt mean it cant be musical, or intelligent, or even a song. I'm tired of going to Dubstep gigs where they just play a really boring tune really loud just to make it interesting.

Now I'm all for simplicity, take Skreams remix of the Klaxons - Not over yet. Simple dubstep remix, but at the same time there's a melody, theme and simple progression through the song. Perfect bassy bliss, gets everyone jumpin. So many Dubstep tunes just dont seem to have anything going for them other than Bass these days, some not even melodic bass, just sub and snare!

Ok haha I could go on, rant over! But by god, when I get my studio back watch this space for some decent dubstep. I love it so much, it just needs to be done well!

Happy xmas all, great community
Tianna Laguerre
25.12.2008
Originally Posted by Tekki
Congrats K!

And idd, spor is awesome!
spor is not exactly my cup of tea, but absolutely fell in love with Dreadnaught, when i heard it on one of the Mary Anne Hobbs shows.
Ryan Morales
24.12.2008
Originally Posted by Kaon
[{dubstep is often compared to or described as a sub genre because the roots of both styles are in dubois muisc}]
--every genre is a sub-genre of something else, dubstep just needs more subs than all the others

Never has a truer word been spoken. lol.
Random X
24.12.2008
Congrats K!

And idd, spor is awesome!
Xavier Emanuels
24.12.2008
Originally Posted by obsidiance
Got a nice Spor collection recently, DAMN SOME OF THAT SHIT IS FRESH!
Damn strait Spor is pretty awesome ! I been liking his 2008 releases too

Originally Posted by Kaon
wo post 250 on this thread was my 250th personal post. its like 2 birthdays at once
Congrats !
Dj Daxsen
23.12.2008
Got a nice Spor collection recently, DAMN SOME OF THAT SHIT IS FRESH!
Virginia Ortiz
22.12.2008
wo post 250 on this thread was my 250th personal post. its like 2 birthdays at once
Virginia Ortiz
22.12.2008
[{drum and bass is dead because compared to late ninties early 00's it was a much more popular genre.}]
--i dont believe popularity has any relevance to the death of any given genre, in fact above all things i believe popularity is the biggest killer of genres known to man.

[{there isn't much development or progression anymore.}]
--What have you been listening to? Come to New Zealand oi :P
I personaly believe dnb has gotten better with age (like a fine fine wine).

[{dubstep is often compared to or described as a sub genre because the roots of both styles are in dubois muisc}]
--every genre is a sub-genre of something else, dubstep just needs more subs than all the others

sublime!
Virginia Ortiz
22.12.2008
Originally Posted by heathledger
drum and bass is dead because compared to late ninties early 00's it was a much more popular genre. there isn't much development or progression anymore.
dubstep is often compared to or described as a sub genre because the roots of both styles are in dubois muisc.
i believe that, like the gods, dnb still lives because there are still people who beleive in it.
Random X
20.12.2008
Originally Posted by heathledger
drum and bass is dead because compared to late ninties early 00's it was a much more popular genre. there isn't much development or progression anymore.
dubstep is often compared to or described as a sub genre because the roots of both styles are in dubois muisc.
Well, with the follwoing I believe the people are ever so vibrant, if you look at current releases, not the pendulum styled ones, but comix/logistix etc, you see some sparks from the old days relid.

Originally Posted by BentoSan
Auto beatmatching decks ? wtf Saw AndyC earlier this year and he was just using regular Vinyl.

I imagine someone like AndyC could manually beatmatch alot faster and more reliably than beat detecting\ beat matching Vinyl decks could(if such a thing even existed).
Well, keylocking I can imagine. Auto beatmatching I can only believe of DVS too.
Xavier Emanuels
20.12.2008
Originally Posted by midifidler
He said a lot of interesting things as he has worked with most of the worlds biggest D & B DJ's over the last 15 years, but one thing he said was super interesting, that Andy C uses decks which auto beat match.
Auto beatmatching decks ? wtf Saw AndyC earlier this year and he was just using regular Vinyl.

I imagine someone like AndyC could manually beatmatch alot faster and more reliably than beat detecting\ beat matching Vinyl decks could(if such a thing even existed).
Mostafa sharifzade
19.12.2008
Originally Posted by Tekki
Every now and than, a musical genres foremost poet or pioneer will come forth claiming the style is dead.

We've already seen it in punk, hip hop, metal, rock and opera already.

Stupidest thing even, that this seems to be some kind of "retro- cycle" that passes along every decade.

With the coming of styles like dubstep amongst others, purists are really keen on claiming that these styles are no derative or subgenre of our beloved DnB.
Better yet, they utter the words "DnB is dead!"

If your own creative impulses can't cope with a style any longer, why claim it is dead in the first place? Couldn't it just evolve into other (sub)styles?
No, kill your idols instead!
There seems to be no better way to start something new, than completely destroy any relations with the past.

How can a genre with high BPM rates be dead, while comparing it to the ever so low BPM rates of the ever so vivid dubstep?
Ofcourse, BPM rates are not a factor in this case, but people listening and enjoying DnB are.
There are still heaps and heaps of bass-heads still jumping their shoes to the sounds of d&b pioneers as Krush, Bukem, Dom & Roland and all others still producing.

Agreed that the old spirit needs to be revived. Still, it's no reason to don the old lass after that much joy she has given us.

Drum and Bass is dead? It seems ever so vibrant as it was in 1996!

drum and bass is dead because compared to late ninties early 00's it was a much more popular genre. there isn't much development or progression anymore.
dubstep is often compared to or described as a sub genre because the roots of both styles are in dubois muisc.
Adolf Hit
19.12.2008
Me & Kaon went to this gig our mate was playing at the other evening and went for a spliff with the MC.

He said a lot of interesting things as he has worked with most of the worlds biggest D & B DJ's over the last 15 years, but one thing he said was super interesting, that Andy C uses decks which auto beat match.

I know some decks have BPM counters on them, but I have never heard of any decks which actually sync themselves.

Does Andy C use DVS now?
Virginia Ortiz
15.12.2008
Originally Posted by BentoSan
I believe you got "huge line problem" and "poser problem" mixed up there
zing!
Random X
15.12.2008
Originally Posted by BentoSan
Who needs midi controls when you have a preset playlist, just play with the line faders and eq's on the mixer that have no audio passing through them anyway !
IDD, just like trailer-trash does.
Da Sunlounge
15.12.2008
drum n' bass is getting younger!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHmIHALIeq4



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Virginia Ortiz
15.12.2008
fuck they look like trailer trash. they are the shit tho, first time ive ever seen the guy on the right without a ciggarette
Xavier Emanuels
15.12.2008
Who needs midi controls when you have a preset playlist, just play with the line faders and eq's on the mixer that have no audio passing through them anyway !
Random X
15.12.2008
Ghahahahahaha...
Damn dude! You nailed it, I was believeing what it reminded me of, but this is it.
Roberto Viccione
15.12.2008
I believe his face says "I'm a drunk who always wanted to be in the Village People"

:-)
Random X
15.12.2008
I am still waiting for the story that he was wondering why his MPD wasn't working.

The look on his face is just that wasted.

If this wasn't the case, I would say the last one DvlsAdvct.
Roberto Viccione
15.12.2008
Dude, I always wanted a wireless MPD24. You believe they have a modification for it or they are just tools?

;-)
Random X
15.12.2008
Well.. When talking of line problems, I still believe of Justice and their "wireless" performance:



Xavier Emanuels
15.12.2008
Originally Posted by B33SON
Just have the DJ to play DnB and it'll take care of that huge line problem. :-P
I believe you got "huge line problem" and "poser problem" mixed up there
Random X
15.12.2008
Ghahahaha, this thread gets better and better.

Time to break out the popcorn yet?
Hannes Deburchgraeve
15.12.2008
Originally Posted by BentoSan
I went to a club on saturday evening , it was free drinks till 10 n they were playing electro house. The line was huge...reminded me to never goto big evening s like that ever again
Just have the DJ to play DnB and it'll take care of that huge line problem. :-P
Virginia Ortiz
14.12.2008
haha the title is somewhat oxymoronic (is that the right word??) we all love morons here. and oxen
Fady Soliman
14.12.2008
i sure hope its not dead!!! would like to get back in it, dont have much but faith massive and culture shift are awsome d & b artists!!!
Virginia Ortiz
14.12.2008
Originally Posted by BentoSan
Your just looking for our pity because the electronic music scene where you are sucks and you are forced to play pop music

You will recieve no pity with those kinds of comments !
bahaha
Random X
12.12.2008
Niiiiiiice!
Adolf Hit
12.12.2008
@BEESON

Nelson is a pretty cool little city, has a pretty decent d&b scene for its size

@ TEKKI

Just brought Ganja Man, that bass line is dope!
Random X
12.12.2008
Originally Posted by B33SON
That wouldn't be hard to do. I have 3 glow in the dark shirts in back of my car.

*ZIIINNGG
w00t! respect for that!

Originally Posted by B33SON
I believe this may be my favorite thread... ever.
Yups! There's quite some d&b addicts here who believe the same.

Originally Posted by B33SON
Hahaha. I live in San Francisco, the world capital of electronic music!

...Maybe you're just too isolated on that little island down there and haven't heard the glorious sounds of banging electro house?
Dude! I'm sure you're aware of that little town, that actually a country, called the Netherlands?

Originally Posted by B33SON
...Did you know I was actually born in Nelson, NZ?
Dooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, another Kiwi!

These guys have d&b genetically encoded.
Hannes Deburchgraeve
12.12.2008
...Did you know I was actually born in Nelson, NZ?
Hannes Deburchgraeve
12.12.2008
Originally Posted by BentoSan
Here D&B takes up the whole flier and Electro House doesnt even rate a mention
That's clearly backward, just like your driving and toilet water.
Xavier Emanuels
12.12.2008
Any place that has Drum and Bass as the last mention on their flier has a sucky electronic music scene

Come to Perth, now here is a real electronic music scene - we are one of the drum and bass capitals of the world. Here D&B takes up the whole flier and Electro House doesnt even rate a mention
Hannes Deburchgraeve
12.12.2008
Originally Posted by BentoSan
Your just looking for our pity because the electronic music scene where you are sucks and you are forced to play pop music

You will recieve no pity with those kinds of comments !
Hahaha. I live in San Francisco, the world capital of electronic music!

...Maybe you're just too isolated on that little island down there and haven't heard the glorious sounds of banging electro house?

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